fredag 5 september 2014

Theme: Knowledge

"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing" 
- Socrates

1. In the preface to the second edition of "Critique of Pure Reason" (page B xvi) Kant says: "Thus far it has been assumed that all our cognition must conform to objects. On that presupposition, however, all our attempts to establish something about them a priori, by means of concepts through which our cognition would be expanded, have come to nothing. Let us, therefore, try to find out by experiment whether we shall not make better progress in the problems of metaphysics if we assume that objects must conform to our cognition." How are we to understand this?

According to Kant, there are two ways of knowledge. On the one hand, we can look at a priori knowledge which is only necessarily, universal knowledge we have about things basically without any experience. For example is mathematical knowledge typical a priori knowledge. On the other hand, Kant writes about a posteriori knowledge where the approach is all based upon experiences. Furthermore, we can look at the example “a pregnant woman” which says that the a priori knowledge is a woman carrying a child. If we instead look at the example “all pregnant women are hungry all the time”, with the perspective of a posteriori knowledge, we need to meet (experience) all pregnant women in order to determine that all of them actually are hungry all the time.

Kant says that our cognition must conform to objects, however he also discusses the importance of objects conforming to our cognition. As an example Kant describes the view of the solar system, in which we thought the sun was spinning around the earth. It wasn’t until Copernicus thought “outside the box” (and found out that the earth actually is doing all the spinning) our view of the solar system changed. I interpret this as Copernicus thus made the object conform to the cognition in order to solve the problem.

My general thoughts on this subject is that in order to gain knowledge we need to combine both the a priori knowledge and the a posteriori knowledge. Also, empiricism (as mentioned in the question below) could be compared to a posteriori knowledge in the same way as rationalism could be discussed to be a sort of a priori knowledge.

2. At the end of the discussion of the definition "Knowledge is perception", Socrates argues that we do not see and hear "with" the eyes and the ears, but "through" the eyes and the ears. How are we to understand this? And in what way is it correct to say that Soctrates argument is directed towards what we in modern terms call "empiricism"?

In this part of the text, the discussion between Socrates and Theaetetus goes back and forth whether knowledge can be described as perceiving. Socrates argues that we rather see and hear “through” our eyes and ears than “with” them. I understand this as it is not enough to only hear and see things with separate senses to have knowledge about them. For example, as Socrates and Theaetetus also discuss, we need to combine all senses to be able to know what colour is showing or if the music playing is loud. You could also put it as we need to reflect on the impressions we perceive in order to gain knowledge about them. Socrates also exemplifies this with the Trojan horse which unlike human beings does have unconnected senses;.

“/../ no one can suppose that in each of us, as in a sort of Trojan horse, there are perched a number of unconnected senses, which do not all meet in some one nature, the mind, or whatever we please to call it, of which they are the instruments, and with which through them we perceive objects of sense.”

According to the Swedish National Encyclopedia, “empiricism” is emphasizing experience rather than wisdom as base for our knowledge. I interpret this, as written above, that we need to connect the senses in order to gain knowledge. Therefore I think Socrates’ argumentation and the definition of “empiricism” are equal in this aspect. We need to reflect on what we see and hear and not just use the senses separately, in other words we need to see through our eyes and not with them. Thus, I don’t think you could say Socrates only discusses empiricism in the text. I would rather put it as empiricism being a part of his discussion with Theaetetus.

In addition to this, I have also thought about the distinction between “hearing” and “listening”. We can hear what people are saying but it isn’t until we listen to them that we actually understand what they’re saying. This agrees with Socrates argumentation; we see and hear through our eyes and ears. However, I would like to express it as “we hear with our ears, but we listen through our ears”.





4 kommentarer:

  1. Hi,
    a really interesting text that's also a lot of fun to read! I like your example of the pregnant woman in the beginning but the example also raises one question - can you a priori know a women is carrying a child or is that knowledge based on previous experiences (a posteriori)? Can you actually know anything a priori? I would like your text to more focus on the question that can be raised rather than explaining the concepts that we can google. You have some interesting thoughts ("we need to combine both the a priori knowledge and the a posteriori knowledge") and I would like to hear more about it! Why do you think so? How can this text be a critique against pure reason?

    In the second text (Socrates) I find your interpretation very interesting! I did also use the Trojan Horse as an example bu did not think about the angle where Socrates speak for the combination of senses. I thought more about the difficulty to see new things when your pure reason only combines posteriori events (you see a stone - thinking it must be a wall). But your interpretation is even more interesting and might even go hand in hand with my - all senses must be combined but to fill in the missing pieces the mind makes up new things making it hard for us humans to see new things without being affected from old experiences.

    Great work! Like the read!
    /Viktor Leandersson

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  2. Hi Emelie,

    I really liked your blog, especially the second part about Socrates. So if we hear with our ears but listens trough them, is it then possible to make a objective interpretation of the world? Or do you feel like the senses always adapt the objects to out previous experiences?

    SvaraRadera
  3. I really like to read your interpretation. I agree with your thoughts about combing our senses to understand which color we see or how loud the music are. I also like to think about a human being as a trojan horse. When one man or warrior inside the horse get injured the horse got new experiences and the horse is going to perceive the world different.
    Sofia, actually I don't think objective interpretation of the world is possible. You always gonna paint the world dark if you perceived it dark..

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  4. Viktor, thank you for your comment! I tried to answer directly to you but since it doesn't seem to work I have been answering my comments as a comment instead. Don't know if you'll be able to receive a notification on them however I can poke you IRL at school to let you know.
    I read your comment a day after you wrote it and I have been thinking on not just describing what Iäve read but rather reflecting on it. It's easier said than done sometimes but I'll do my best. Thanks for the advice! Even if it takes some more time,it's more worth doing in the end. I will read some of your blog post later. Again, thank you for your comment!

    Sofia, thank you for your comment. It's been a while since I wrote this and the more I think and reflect on it the more I think we cannot see/hear/listen/look at the world with objective senses. I think it's all based upon experiences. However I'll guess I will change my mind perhaps in an hour or two. These philosophical themes are a great struggle but very interesting.

    Cicci, thank you for your comment! I discussed this with a friend of mine who told me the story when she was in middle school painting. She and a friend of hers started discussing the possibility that the color 'green' really is your interpretation of 'blue'. It's a bit hard to explain but what I mean is that what if your interpretation of blue is my green and we will never find out because I cannot see (either through or) with your eyes. I thought that was an interesting story especially since my friend only was about 10 years old at the time of the deep discussion. Haha, I can't take credit for the deep thought since I've just started to accept this whole thing with philosophy. :)

    SvaraRadera